Monday, July 25, 2011

LENR meeting at Viaregiio, Italy


Saturday, July 23, 2011

Live conference from Viareggio

Celani is closing greetings: four hours have flown!
19:56 - The conference ends a little 'to tarallucci and wine, ranging on various topics, with great appreciation of the many speakers.

19:51 - At the urging of the public will open a parenthesis on the work of Carpinteri and Cardone (fusion piezonucleare). A researcher at INFN in this report that the search for Cardone has been refuted by other studies with more accurate instruments. It opens a small debate where everyone is on their positions!

19:49 - He wonders whether there are correlations between earthquakes and cold fusion reactions. Celani says he's been detected correlation between earthquakes and emissions of tritium that could be explained by the phenomena of cold fusion.

19:44 - The conference draws to a close. Is ongoing dialogue between audience and speakers.

19.26 - Virgil Roy insists that we are not talking about cold fusion (see the coherence theory of preparation), but another type of LENR Piantelli and reiterates that has identified a sequence of events, very complex, can be explained by the theories existing energy production from a Ni and H.

19:21 - Another answer Celani. Proof that the nuclear reaction is, to date, still does not come from Rossi and Focardi, but from American research on the production of tritium. The measures disclosed by Rossi (producing steam) are not sufficiently reliable. Celani has no doubt that the eCat functions, the only questions that remain are of the functions.

19:13 - Another reference to the coherence theory of Giuliano Preparata Celani says working with nanoscale materials (5-15 nm) and has something to do with the problem of Fermi, Pasta, Ulam (among other things, there are studies Without even kept secret for military purposes).

19.10 - The crowd takes the floor Milly Moratti , recalls the "beautiful" and confirms the figure of Giuliano Preparata, referring also to search for Srivastava, the experimental evidence of cold fusion, there are now.

19.06 - From the audience asked if Roy Piantelli not just a cover behind which other people and groups act. Roy Piantelli now clearly specifies that, for the age, no longer works at the forefront, but has an important oversight role. Also adds that Piantelli has a theory that, without upsetting the current models, is able to explain the phenomenon and soon to be published by the University of Siena.

18:58 - The same signal was recorded when the reaction was blocked.

18.53 - Compared to the size range that took on in Bologna, Celani says ready for anything that went ... with 20 kg of equipment! The possible tricks could be a power cable hidden in the reactor or radioactive material. With its instrumentation (battery not attached to a network) has been monitoring all possible. Both of the two detectors range that had led at one point had a peak, while that to detect electromagnetic interference had not indicated anything. Shortly after Smith announced that the reaction had started.

18:48 - The first response will imply different problems for science to land on non-mainstream "magazines" change of rules brought by the Internet, the presence of technologies subject to trade secret. Celani also explains that the "scientific culture" is the rule of "publish or something or you die", so few end up on bills submitted articles to magazines still not 100% reproducible, which generally are not published.

18:40 - I make a short speech, then the word takes the journalist of Focus, Menichella asks why these researches have not been subjected to peer review and Celani because measurements on the range who carried out January 14 should be regarded as a clue for the reactor Rossi Focardi.

18:39 - The first cells that will be offered for sale will be the order of kW, and then we will scale-up of technology (production of more size and power reactors).

18:37 - Piantelli does not use catalysts, only nickel and hydrogen.

18:35 - Piantelli's position is that he is not obliged to advertise anything, not intended to demonstrate the kind that made Rossi will arrive on the market with a mature product that will present itself [So in the end, his strategy is analogous to what now follows Rossi].

18:26 - The search for Piantelli, after a pause and the end of the collaboration with Focardi, was restarted a couple of years ago, thanks to the emergence of a lender, convinced the company to participate in the uninterrupted functioning for two years of two cells, both well with the excesses of the order of a few tens of watts. A new company Nichenergy [see website under construction www.nichenergy.com ] has been specially created 5 months ago [in obvious competition with Defkalion] and other industries would be giving the rights to produce different types of reactors (of different sizes, more or less powerful).

18:24 - These two words on his book, began to report the news of the working group Piantelli in Siena.

18:21 - Roy Virgil took the floor, had just returned to the room.

18:17 - Question from audience: It is possible that the catalyst of Rossi's something very expensive process that makes it not cheap? Celani explains that the catalyst by definition very small amounts take effect. Massai argues that the term should be reserved for catalytic chemical phenomena. Celani replied that the nanometer order of magnitude seems to change things, there is also a kind of spillover effect in physics ...


18:14 - Celani has concluded his speech. Massai took the floor and opened the discussion with the audience. [Roy had to be away for a moment, speak soon].

18.12 - The military interest seems particularly justified by the possibility of producing tritium at very low cost through the merger (the tritium is used to maintain operational thermonuclear warheads).

18.08 - Celani notes that the best researchers in the field end up working in military laboratories (Los Alamos, Naval Research). For it is natural to think that the campaign of denigration against the cold fusion on the one hand, and military investment on the other cold fusion are two sides of same coin.

18.01 - Arata also began using in 2005 together with Pd and Ni Zr also. These studies have been included in the U.S. by Brian Ahern, who got around 8W at 500 ° C.

17:56 - Celani illustrates the research that is pursuing with a multidisciplinary team, using deposits of nanoparticles on long, thin wires of Pd in ​​the atmosphere of deuterium gas getting 400W/ga 500 ° C with good reproducibility. He also worked with wires of Ni in a hydrogen atmosphere to obtain a return equal to the highest 1800W/ga 900 ° C for 5 days (!), But still difficult to replicate.

17.53 - Arata was the first, working with powders of Palladio, to understand that the cold fusion reaction increased with decreased particle size, but to a certain point: the ideal range is 5-15 nanometers. Smaller sizes become counterproductive,

17.50 - More evidence of cold fusion are bogged down in such research Giuliano Preparata ENEA. My colleague, De Ninno could not continue the promising research to the total cut in funding.

17:47 - The first sensational cover-up of cold fusion goes back to 1989, by NASA. Only in 2003 it was discovered that a positive report of G. Fralick had been "in a drawer."

17:43 - In fact the real father of cold fusion is Yoshiaki Arata , which began work since 1958 with deuterium in the gas phase.

17.40 - Remember that Fleischmann was the president of the International Society of Electrochemistry, certainly not a fool. Parenthesis: Few people know that Pons is of Italian origin. The announcement in 1989 that they could not be handled worse disaster.

17.37 - Historically, the main lines of research in cold fusion are two:
  1. Palladium-Deuterium (Flieschmann and Pons);
  2. Nickel-Hydrogen (Piantelli, Focardi, Habel).

17:34 - One of the strengths of LENR is producing low-energy radiation (not dangerous), a weak point is that there are hundreds of cases of theories to explain groped, but to date nothing has proven conclusive.

17:32 - Explain how the principles of cold fusion, well known and known in military areas, are used in the production of micro-tactical nuclear weapons [see for example here and here ].

17:28 - After speaking briefly about the fission of nuclear fusion artificial hot , inertial , cold . Cold fusion does not occur in a vacuum but in condensed matter, especially in a crystal lattice loaded with hydrogen.

17:23 - He tells of an episode in which, during a cold-fusion tests he conducted, he produced a peak of energy so high and clear, to give him the certainty of the phenomenon ... the small thread presented palladium used in a subsequent analysis by electron microscopy, nano-important changes and unexplained by current theories.

17.20 - Celani classifies the known reactions that provide energy in 4 types:
  1. chemical
  2. Nuclear fission
  3. nuclear fusion
  4. LENR

17.16 - points out that particularly in this area of ​​research preconceived criticisms only serve to inflate the egos of those who practice them. It's up to address the matter with true scientific method and skepticism, but skepticism must go hand in hand with constructive, not negative.

17.11 - took the floor to thank Francesco Celani Delta Energy , the organizers and the audience. Explains that he became interested in cold fusion with the aim of proving that it was a mistake, but that he also believes that the phenomenon was real, although difficult to play at first. It also recognizes that the problem of cold fusion, as well as that of reproducibility, is that through lots of research there have been more seriously unreliable that ended with discredit even on the first, just to avoid this is born ISCMNS which at present is vice president.

17.09 - A long round of applause greets the end of the interview.

17.08 - Focardi concludes that this source of energy can revolutionize the world: Nickel is almost unlimited because the earth's core ( NiFe ) is composed of nickel (Ni) and Iron (Fe). [Ok, but I think we can extract only one present on the earth's crust!].

17.05 - Focardi says that in recent years have made many types of measurement of energy produced, even with closed hydraulic circuits.

17.03 - The ignition temperature of the reaction is 60-70 ° C.

16:57 - Focardi insists he does not know as yet explain the mechanism (nuclear) carrying a nickel atom to capture a proton and become copper, but they found the copper in the final products of the reaction and this is an experimental fact.

16:54 - Remember when you went by train from Bologna to Bondeno Rossi and waited at the station, then went to work together in the famous warehouse where they were developed prototypes of the reactor-Ni-H Rossi Focardi.

16.50 - Focardi refers to the famous article written by Smith and published on the net where it is explained that the energy output was measured with different methodologies.

16.45 - The start of the collaboration with Rossi just changed the scale of the effect. Focardi says that the two key innovations introduced by Rossi were the use of the powder in place of bars of nickel and the catalyst secret.

16:43 - The results achieved by Piantelli were scientifically interesting, but their scale (ratio output / input = 2) was too small to be able to think to produce energy economically.

16.40 - After the experiment of Fleischmann and Pons - continues to remind Focardi - began to collaborate with the Piantelli Habel and cold fusion. At Siena he could enjoy Piantelli funding that enabled the making of early research.

16:36 - Focardi retraces his long academic career, work in the field of experimental particle physics events at the University of Pisa, and Brasimone ENEA Frascati, CERN in Geneva and then in Bologna.

16:32 - Start the projection made by the interview with Professor Mario Sergio Focardi Menichella.

16:13 - Can we contact - Skype - Andrea Rossi, who are in the U.S., and answers to questions put by Mario Menichella; confirms that the work for construction of 1 MW is progressing smoothly and will be respected times delivery schedules. With regard to the European patent, says he hopes to enter the market in November of the first industrial use eCat (patent pending) will give a push to grant the patent. For home and will issue the certificates needed another couple of years at least. Andrea Rossi takes his leave. As he had received with great applause, the same way the audience greets him warmly.
Fifteen minutes before the start.

16.03 - As the room is full, Prof. Marco Massai Department of Physics, University of Pisa, moderator of the conference, opens the work. Mario Manichella shows to present the recent history dell'eCat.

15.40 - Fifteen minutes early, the room is almost full ...

15.05 - I agreed with Mario Roy Virgil Menichella to leave space for action that I was dedicated: I am curious to know how all the news of Piantelli. I remain available for the round table, if there are questions about the role played by the blog to tell everyone the story in the making dell'eCat.

Bourbon House - an hour at the beginning of the conference
Even the intervention of Francesco Celani promises to be substantial!

14:33 - For bandwidth issues will not be able to stream the device this afternoon. Will be recorded and put online in the coming days. See you later

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